Mr. Zowada

I have spoken with several knife makers who say that all knives should be put in liquid nitrogen as part of the tempering process. Others say it is a waste of time and money, that "it is just propping up a poor heat treat" or "you can't get any further improvement". What, if any, are the advantages to the cryogenic treatment of knife blades?

Thanks,

Fred C.
Rapid City, SD


Dear Fred,

Thank you for your question. You may be aware that this is a rather hot topic among knife makers lately. As always, there are many different opinions and explanations to back them up.

Let's start with what most makers seem to agree on. Cryogenic treatment does help stainless and high alloy blades. The reason is that there is retained austenite in the steel after the quenching of the blade. This retained austenite weakens and reduces the hardness of the steel. Freezing the blade in liquid nitrogen transforms the retained austenite in to martensite. This will greatly improve the cutting and strength qualities of the knife.

An example of M2 tool steel can be seen in the transformation diagram below. Note that at 0F the blade still has only 80% martensite. 20% is retained austenite. You need to get the blade way below 0F to get the retained austenite out.  

The controversy begins when you start talking about the simple carbon steels. Since carbon steels will convert essentially all of their austenite in to martensite with normal quenching techniques, many makers feel that freezing them doesn't do any additional good. The transformation chart below shows that O1 has 99% martensite at 100F. So, if you don't have any retained austenite, what is the point of freezing simple steels?

Here is where we get in to my opinion. I believe that the deep freezing of steels not only converts retained austenite, but it also acts like a super stress relief.

In the simple steels you aren't after, and don't get, higher hardness from converting retained austenite in to martensite. What you do get is less residual stress after hardening and more strength in both bending and impact.

The mental picture I have is; if you have a room full of balls that are in random arrangement and then shrink that room by freezing it, the balls will be forced in to a more orderly arrangement. Then, as the room grows bigger again, the balls will hold their relative positions. This will result in more regular and stronger bonds. This might not be anything like how it really works. But, for right now, it seems to be a good way to think about it.

A few years ago I did some simple testing to see if freezing had any use at all. I had the testing done at a real metallurgy lab to keep my biases out of it. The results are in the chart below. The samples were Starrett O1. The sizes are non standard so please don't compare these values to those printed elsewhere. They were either oil quenched or martempered to the hardness stated. The frozen piece was simply thrown in to a bucket of liquid nitrogen after the final temper. After twenty minutes it was removed and allowed to come back to room temperature slowly.

As you can see, the results are very encouraging. The frozen piece was stronger than all the other pieces at all hardneses. Failure in bending, energy to max. load and total energy are all higher than the other samples. It is interesting to see that it is possible to make a knife at 60HRC, with its' high tensile strength, that has the impact strength of a non frozen knife at 53HRC. See sample C.

There are several other interesting things to note from this chart. Notice how poorly samples A and B do on the impact test. They were tested immediately after quenching and were not tempered. That is why you want to temper your blades right away and be careful not to drop them. Yet, samples A and B also clearly show the advantages of martempering at high hardness.

For now, I am putting all my knives in liquid nitrogen after the first temper. The blades are simply immersed in the dewar and held there for œ hour after they reach the temperature of the nitrogen. They are then removed and allowed to reach room temperature slowly. Two standard tempers follow.

I understand that there are others who will disagree with me on this one. I would love to see their test results and learn from them. The search for better methods to produce a better product is one of the things that helps keep knife making interesting.


For questions or comments contact:

Tim Zowada
4509 E. Bear River Rd.
Boyne Falls, MI  49713

tim@tzknives.com


                           



BENDNG


IMPACT

SAMPLE
HARDNESS HRC
QENCH METHOD
FAILURE

ENERGY TO MAX LOAD
TOTAL ENERGY



lbs
lbs

ft-lb
ft-lb
A
64
M



4.1
4.5
B
65
O



1.6
2.4
C
60
MF
1750
2110

10.1
17.2
D
60.5
M
1790
1978

8.4
13.9
E
60
O
1690
1893

7.4
11.1
F
52.5
M
1650
1850

8.5
16.2
G
53
O
1610
1800

5.1
14.7


Quench method:    O = Oil
        M = Martempered
        MF = Martempered and frozen in liquid nitrogen